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What should be happening with the debate today

If MSNBC had any sense, which it doesn't, it would have taken every one-minute answer from last night's ping-pong debate and put them up on YouTube themselves. Then, today, we'd be able to watch each one without feeling as if we were trying to count cars on a speeding train. And, more important, we'd be able to comment on them and embed them in our blogs. We'd see which clips are the most popular, the most talked about. We'd get a new sense of what the electorate thinks, which itself would be news. If NBC also made the video files available for download and remixing, we'd see the post-debate commentary not from the same old made-up faces on the networks but from the people who matter, the voters: us. MSNBC would be part of the conversation, in the thick of it, which is exactly where it should want to be. Instead, the network is acting like the bratty and unpopular rich kid who takes him marbles and harumphs home, ruining the game for everyone. But it's happening without MSNBC, of course. There are already loads of clips up on YouTube, put there by dastardly copyright thieves, in NBC News' view, or by engaged voters and viewers, in my view. And as much as I'm busting them for not doing the internet right, I have to believe that even MSNBC won't have the bad sense to try to pull those clips and send cease-and-desists to the citizens who are sharing moments from our own democratic debate. (Quick, somebody put a leash on that lawyer!) The net result, though, is that the discussion is happening on YouTube and on blogs but not around MSNBC, thanks to the network's rules and to the fact that its clips are not linkable or embeddable and are chosen by producers instead of voters. A true case of cutting off the nose. The side effect is that the clips are on YouTube but they are not on other networks' news sites. So you could have them promoting MSNBC today along with the viewers but because MSNBC insisted on NO internet usage whatsoever, they've given up millions of dollars worth of free promotion and branding. Foolish. It's not too late to fix this, though. NBC could put the clips up on YouTube right now (later, they could do this on their new embeddable service). And they could announce right now that they will follow Larry Lessig's advice and release the next, Republican debate under an open Creative Commons license requiring attribution and links back to the networks' site. They could say they're doing this in the interests of stimulating the democratic discussion. But the truth is, it'd just be smart business. If they did that, I have no doubt that they'd get more traffic and more attention and out of that, more money. Instead, they're only engendering the animus of the voters and viewers online. Just to show solidarity with the YouTube gang of thieves, I'll embed two clips here, the funniest moments of the debate (and if I get a cease and desist, I'll put it here in place of these videos): Here is Joe Biden's one-word answer:
And here is Mike Gravel's insane sputtering:

7 Responses to “What should be happening with the debate today”


  1. 1 Jamison Apr 27th, 2007 at 4:19 pm

    I missed the broadcast of the debate, and so I’ve missed out on the spirit of debating — unedited, un-editorialized conversation between candidates. I don’t own a DVR, and I was busy during the debate. Why won’t MSNBC let me stream it from its website? I’m willing to watch an ad, even two. I’d even pay to see it.

    Clips on YouTube are one way; MSNBC had literally hundreds of tools at its disposal to engage viewers (citizens) in this political process. I would use ClickTV to jump to the topics that interest me most–to read comments at specific points and add my own. I would use MotionBox to highlight a poignant moment on my blog.

    MSNBC’s business misjudgment is one thing. We’ve allowed them to curtail our collective conversation. Don’t we all deserve to engage?

  2. 2 Bob Manna Apr 27th, 2007 at 9:32 pm

    TV political debates are not debates. They are examples of really bad entertainment; mostly because the performers are really bad actors.

    Youtube, broadcast and cable T.V are not educational or informative media, they are entertainment media. No one should expect a presidential debate to offer substance. To quote Neil Postman, “It is the nature of the medium (TV et.al) that it must suppress the content of ideas in order to accommodate the requirements of visual interest; that is to say, to accommodate the values of show business”.

    Stop trying so hard to force the networks to bow to your wishes. They know they are in show business not in public education.

  3. 3 Lag Apr 28th, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    Mike Gravel’s insane sputtering……what an “insane” statement. Open your eyes, he speaks up when the others do not want to cause ripples in the water, fearing it may damage their chance.

    Wake Up!

  4. 4 scooby Apr 30th, 2007 at 11:40 am

    “Youtube, broadcast and cable T.V are not educational or informative media…”

    I say rubbish!

    It educates and informs, even when it’s of the lowest common denominator. If the individual wants to go further with what’s being absorbed while being entertained, then it’ll happen. We all learn differently, at our own pace, and seek more information when we’re inspired to do so. That process can come from any source, including YT, broadcast and cable.

  5. 5 Billy Boy May 1st, 2009 at 9:09 am
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